Comments on: Karma, Farming and Play Styles http://push.cx/2009/karma-farming-play-styles A traveling geek's blog on development, games, and the web Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:41:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Peter Harkins http://push.cx/2009/karma-farming-play-styles/comment-page-1#comment-93996 Peter Harkins Wed, 27 May 2009 00:37:17 +0000 http://push.cx/?p=978#comment-93996 It was intended as lighthearted teasing, not any kind of special rhetorical smackdown. Your model has been a useful design tool to a lot of people (self included), I was poking fun because it's not a rigorous statistical model like the iHobo book and I've been big on that lately. I haven't been able to read the book you recommend (my library doesn't have it and won't try to get it via inter-library loan until it's 6 months old) but it sounds like they're reiterating or furthering development of the model from 21st Century. It was intended as lighthearted teasing, not any kind of special rhetorical smackdown. Your model has been a useful design tool to a lot of people (self included), I was poking fun because it’s not a rigorous statistical model like the iHobo book and I’ve been big on that lately.

I haven’t been able to read the book you recommend (my library doesn’t have it and won’t try to get it via inter-library loan until it’s 6 months old) but it sounds like they’re reiterating or furthering development of the model from 21st Century.

]]> By: Richard Bartle http://push.cx/2009/karma-farming-play-styles/comment-page-1#comment-93984 Richard Bartle Tue, 26 May 2009 15:47:31 +0000 http://push.cx/?p=978#comment-93984 Why would I eat my heart out? I'm no statistician, but Nick Yee has done plenty of cluster analysis that largely backs up my player types theory. As it happens, I have Bateman & Boon, and even reference it in a chapter I wrote for a 2009 book edited by Chris Bateman (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyond-Game-Design-Creating-Videogames/dp/1584506717). The similarity between my types and the Bateman & Boon types pretty well ends at the fact there are 4 types in each one. They address different issues and are not contradictory; it really depends on what you want to use them for as to which one to use. Mine comes with a model, so it can be used predictively; it's not going to help if you're looking at personalities, though, whereas Bateman & Boon will. Richard PS: Google blog search... Why would I eat my heart out? I’m no statistician, but Nick Yee has done plenty of cluster analysis that largely backs up my player types theory.

As it happens, I have Bateman & Boon, and even reference it in a chapter I wrote for a 2009 book edited by Chris Bateman
(http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1584506717/?tag=pushcx-20). The similarity between my types and the Bateman & Boon types pretty well ends at the fact there are 4 types in each one. They address different issues and are not contradictory; it really depends on what you want to use them for as to which one to use. Mine comes with a model, so it can be used predictively; it’s not going to help if you’re looking at personalities, though, whereas Bateman & Boon will.

Richard

PS: Google blog search…

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